21:04:16 <quaid> #startmeeting CentOS Board public meeting

21:04:16 <centbot> Meeting started Wed Mar  5 21:04:16 2014 UTC.  The chair is quaid. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.

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21:07:11 <quaid> #topic Core S

21:07:19 <quaid> #topic Core SIG

21:07:36 * quaid thinks that is in the log although centbot doesn't have OPs to change the local channel topic

21:08:39 <quaid> #info although RHEL 7 upstream isn't doing a 32-bit build, we have reason to do it as part of building the main distro.

21:08:44 <quaid> #idea 32-bit is part of Core SIG

21:08:49 <quaid> #idea or 32-bit is it's own SIG

21:09:37 <quaid> #info for 64-bit we don't need to build 32-bit ISOs, make sure installs work, and make sure kernels work

21:09:54 <quaid> #idea we could do most of the work in the Core SIG and have the 32-bit SIG focus on the final ISO building and testing

21:16:42 <quaid> #agreed Core SIG can produce 32-bit RPMs, and 32-bit SIG can focus on building and testing ISOs; as that SIG gains merit they can gain more access to do the work; all of the work could be tested as part of the QA.

21:17:09 <quaid> #topic Virt SIG proposal

21:25:36 <quaid> #info Virt SIG would be for all virtualization-related updated software needs, bootstrapping with Xen

21:30:39 <quaid> #idea SIGs should look to the common e.g. qemu in Virt SIG (even to maybe carry a patch for them) before carrying their own variation of a package in their own SIG

21:31:02 <quaid> #idea make it so everyone can consume from central

21:31:25 <quaid> #idea Virt SIG could be a good place for carrying the latest upstream KVM for those who want it

21:31:47 <hughesjr> also a new libvirt is going to be needed

21:31:56 <ccmolik> +1 on new kvm shinynes

21:32:14 <csieh> So is there a "charter" for what the Core SIG should do

21:32:17 <quaid> #info Virt SIG will also need to carry a new libvirt

21:32:31 <quaid> hughesjr: was that an accurate capture of your statement?

21:32:53 <hughesjr> yes

21:32:55 <quaid> csieh: this is the best for now:

21:32:57 <quaid> http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Core

21:33:12 <quaid> but it could be updated, such as to include the 32-bit discussion for Cent 7

21:34:15 <Evolution> csieh: is there something in that you'd like to see updated or changed?

21:35:38 <csieh> just would like the goal to be documented,  if changed that is ok just need to document it so others can know what is going on

21:36:12 <quaid> #action Core SIG needs to update it's charter & run that by the Board

21:36:44 <csieh> so the above web page talks about CentOS,  so what really is CentOS as far as this discussion is concerned

21:37:57 <Evolution> csieh: yeah, we need to word that loads better. I think it needs to reference the packages (and build requirements) for the upstream(rh) packages only.

21:38:10 <kbsingh> so, CentOS Linux

21:38:13 <hughesjr> it says CentOS Linux ... so it controls everything that is NON-SIG

21:38:23 <hughesjr> or CoreOS

21:39:09 <hughesjr> and manages all infrastructure owned by the project

21:40:25 <quaid> #info 'CentOS' in the Core SIG description means "CentOS Linux, controls everything not done by other SIGs, is the core OS"

21:40:43 <quaid> hughesjr: I thought we had the Infra SIG as a different SIG, with Core SIG maintaining the build system(s)?

21:41:04 <hughesjr> we WILL have one, but not yet

21:41:08 <quaid> in that I'd like us to be able to add people to Infra SIG without being part of the Core SIG - diff skillsets, merit criteria, etc.

21:41:12 <quaid> hughesjr: ok, thanks

21:41:38 <quaid> #idea have an Infra SIG that takes the infrastructure management work off the hands of the Core SIG, who can then maintian just the build system (or systems for the community builders)

21:42:16 <toracat> who would maintain the source files through git.centos.org ?

21:42:38 <Evolution> toracat: depends on which code you mean?

21:42:47 <toracat> RHEL

21:43:28 <Evolution> we would, the same/similar way we do so now in the private build setup. it'll be read-only and branched

21:43:57 <Evolution> the rhel code would be able to be branched/forked etc. but  not edited.

21:44:08 <toracat> we == Core SIG ?

21:44:10 <hughesjr> the Core SIG will maintain the CentOS Linux source code in git.centos.org ... other SIGs will maintain their code in there

21:44:19 <Evolution> toracat: yes.

21:44:24 <toracat> thanks

21:45:20 <Evolution> toracat: sorry. abusing the 'royal we'

21:45:41 <toracat> :D

21:45:43 <hughesjr> we is we and it is everyone who is not they :D

21:46:30 <Evolution> toracat: good point/question though

21:46:39 <toracat> I want to hear range talk :) he is too quiet

21:47:04 <Arrfab> toracat: .eu people are silent and almost sleeping :-p

21:47:06 <hughesjr> he is asleep

21:47:17 <toracat> I see now

21:48:58 <Evolution> $5 says range has a nice lager/ale beside him.

21:49:02 <quaid> range looks a bit like a monk in his mini-vid inset pic

21:49:58 <quaid> yeah, I want video voting cards

21:50:37 <quaid> #agreed tentatively agreed to approve Virt SIG proposal as new charter, upcoming content on the Wiki; need to get input from Tru

21:50:42 <Evolution> toracat: anything you'd like to hear covered?

21:50:43 <quaid> #topic Any other business?

21:50:53 <Evolution> csieh: you as well

21:50:56 <toracat> Evolution: not for today

21:51:26 <quaid> what do we want to do about the functional SIGs? e.g. QA in particular

21:51:52 <csieh> no other business from me

21:52:21 <toracat> csieh: hi, good to see you here :)

21:56:18 <kbsingh> range looks very pensive

21:56:23 <quaid> #info In general, we'll be able to bring up functional SIGs e.g. Documentation, QA, Promo, Artwork, etc.; have a dependency on an auth system to share resources granularly v. all-or-nothing

21:58:08 <quaid> #info Jim Perring has been working with FreeIPA and Fedora Auth System (FAS) to see how they compare; FreeIPA looks really nice & would be a good reference story; FAS has all the features we need but is really customized.

22:00:43 <quaid> #undo

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22:00:49 <quaid> #info Jim Perrin has been working with FreeIPA and Fedora Auth System (FAS) to see how they compare; FreeIPA looks really nice & would be a good reference story; FAS has all the features we need but is really customized.

22:00:53 <quaid> hate when I do that to his name

22:00:58 <Evolution> toracat: I'm sorry if I butched your name

22:01:07 <toracat> close

22:01:20 <quaid> btw, others can do #info, #idea, only Chairs can do #agreed, #undo

22:01:27 <range> Okay, no hoodie next time :)

22:01:27 <quaid> I'll pass out #chair next time

22:01:31 <Evolution> toracat: phonetic spelling?

22:01:36 <Evolution> toracat: how do I say it?

22:01:45 <quaid> always a good idea to spread chair in case the meeting starter is netsplit

22:01:48 <toracat> Evolution: yes. ah-keh-me

22:01:59 <Evolution> ah, so no long ee sound.

22:02:36 <range> Evolution: No, the lager is on the balcony.

22:02:48 <range> (I might get one, though).

22:02:48 <toracat> now range is awake

22:03:06 <range> Yeah, completely missed this channel :)

22:03:41 <quaid> ok, closing the minutes/log

22:03:45 <quaid> #endmeeting