From 7936f73fcb1dcf4b5e38cfae220e48c790f2e64b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Rich Bowen Date: Jul 23 2021 16:49:38 +0000 Subject: 2014 Board minutes, first batch. --- diff --git a/meetings/2014/2014-02-26.md b/meetings/2014/2014-02-26.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..8bf081d --- /dev/null +++ b/meetings/2014/2014-02-26.md @@ -0,0 +1,46 @@ +# 2014-02-26 Board Meeting! +## Attending +* Karanbir Singh +* Jim Perrin +* Fabian Arrotin +* Carl Trieloff +* Mike McLean + +## Agenda +* Trademark +* SIG-focused open meeting +* Document sent around +* CoreOS + +## Actions +* Trademark examples for FAQ. + + + +## Notes +###Trademark +Some public discussion is covering our base for us, people are schooling other people on the subject by using the guidelines. +We still want to put up some examples and improve the FAQ. +Need a process for how to reach out to people in violation of the trademark. +Will let people use logo for t-shirts if they are given away. +###Hardware +were getting 600gb disks in the new hs23’s ( to fill out existing chassis ) +were also getting 600gb disks for ibm 2u storage box +###SIG +google-hangout(?) please check kit +prop for +centos-virt +centos-cloud +another ( maybe voip sig ) +Desktop ( jim ) +hosting sig - not moving too far / too fast. +storage sig: they need something to make it worthwhile, cloud sig might deliver something, not much interest from gluster - beyond the emails to centos-devel +packaging /extending stuff SIG: +###CoreOS +minimal kernel +centos-7 derived +maybe into an existing SIG or bootstrap a new +###What should be the SIG status be for ‘re-branding’ CentOS + + + diff --git a/meetings/2014/2014-03-12.md b/meetings/2014/2014-03-12.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..86d45dd --- /dev/null +++ b/meetings/2014/2014-03-12.md @@ -0,0 +1,39 @@ +# 12 March 2014 Board Meeting + +## Attendees +* Mike McLean +* Carl Trieloff +* Karsten Wade +* Johnny Hughes +* Karanbir Singh +* Fabian Arrotin +* Ralph Angenendt + +## Agenda +## building rockets with centos +## trademark +## board meeting time and daylight savings + + +## Actions +Work with Richard to fix issues with trademark guidelines + + + + +## Notes +Richard: trademark guidelines, as written, are problematic +may be unenforceable + need fixing +how/when should we engage with the community about this? +general agreement to keep this quiet until we have an acceptable draft +[PRIVATE] atomic: new subscription plans + + +## release naming +we don’t support older point releases +we shouldn’t use labels like 6.4, just 6 (?) +nothing decided +suggestion to keep 5 and 6 the way they are and try out the new way with 7 (which isn’t yet decided either) + + diff --git a/meetings/2014/2014-03-26.md b/meetings/2014/2014-03-26.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..7a7c491 --- /dev/null +++ b/meetings/2014/2014-03-26.md @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +# Board minutes 2014-03-26 + +## Attendees +* Mike +* KB +* Carl +* Karsten +* Fabian +* Ralphp +* Tru +* Jim +* Johnny + + +## Agenda +* Release naming +* Export regulations verbage + + + + +## Actions +Jim to write up list of actions / content to address export control requirements + + +## Notes +### Naming +Jim: need to sell the sanity aspect in light of new sigs +Jim: not a fan of cute names +Karsten: names are memorable +Mike: the names don’t have to be cute +Ralph: don’t want the name to be too long. dates are good/practical +Carl: need to avoid fragmentation. no names per variants +KB: Year and month is enough. It takes days to get content on the mirrors +Mike: let’s enumerate the different classes of sigs/variants and think about how naming should work in each case +Mike: we want to avoid giving the appearance of EUS-type support +Fabian: consider chef/puppet variables +could break various puppet modules/etc +Karsten: can we provide major/minor number where necessary without using it at top level? +Jim/KB: vendor validation +Jim: too drastic a change too fast could cause a user revolt +KB: just drop the subrelease altogether. E.g. centos-6-atomic +Karsten: need to really think about how we will present this to the community +folks will point out holes in plan +we’ll have an iterative process +KB: let’s take the rest of this offline/email +### A wild Johnny appears! +### Export stuff +Karsten: the laws are complex, but we need a simple policy +Karsten: software contributions imply access to software, which may be prohibited +Karsten: we’re not here to take a political stance +let’s not let folks force us into taking one +people should not be using us to make a political statement +Jim: some details about Fedora’s approach +KB: a lot of people in Iran use Centos +users may be deliberately trying to push the boundaries +Carl: we don’t have to be police, just state the facts (in a nice way) +Jim: they can always get it from kernel.org +Fabian: what / how do we communicate mirror requests +needs wording up +ToDO: firewall off content from mirror-?.centos.org ( the ones hosted at redhat ) +desireable to have elsewhere, but not essential +ToDo: add notes to rsync header, mirrorlist node to say content is not acceptable for use in some areas +Jim to write up list of actions / content to address export control requirements + diff --git a/meetings/2014/2014-04-09.md b/meetings/2014/2014-04-09.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..cdc1f98 --- /dev/null +++ b/meetings/2014/2014-04-09.md @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +# Board minutes 2014-04-09 + +## Attendees +* Mike +* Carl +* Karsten +* Jim +* Fabian +* Johnny +* Karanbir + + +## Agenda +* Linux Foundation Press release +* Centos CN forum request + +## Actions +Carl: provide link to ASF publicity policy/rules +http://apache.org/press/#releases +Carl: next iteration of versioning document + +## Notes +### Karsten brings up the Linux Foundation press release +KB: why is Stephanie involved? +Karsten: why is LF involved? +Karsten: Stephanie is simply a help resource we can use +KB: LF is not running the virt sig, rh is not running the virt sig +Carl: Press release needs to come to the board. Do we even want one? +Carl: notes how Apache Foundation handles such things +KB: Press release from their end vs. from our end +Karsten: none of us are pr experts. it’s good to have help. +Jim: just learned about this today. I want to see the release. Doesn’t matter that it’s for summit. Help from Stephanie is fine, but she is not a blocker. +Carl: If the release makes any representation about the project, then they need our approval +Carl: we should establish a press list and develop some expertise and rules +KB: haven’t had a chance to look. only had it for five minutes +KB: no need for this to block for weeks +Carl: need to formalize how we handle issuing our press releases. +through RH? +through another company that employs one of us? +Jim: can we view/crib the ASF policy? +Carl: yes +KB: let’s get this particular release handled in the next day for so and try to formalize the process later +Chinese language forum request +KB: relates previous attempt at a CN language forum +no activity +KB: Let’s do something more general, rather than specifically target one language +folks in Japan are interested, as well as... +indonesia +malaysia +brazil +every language group gets .centos.org and a mailing list +set up a language moderators group +document how this process works +at least one member needs to: speak english, join moderators list +KB: this particular CN request comes from someone who might be problematic +may want too much autonomy +Mike: wonders if we should use hyperkitty +https://fedorahosted.org/hyperkitty/ +demo: https://lists.stg.fedoraproject.org/archives/ +KB: who is will to take ownership of delivering this? +KB: not it! +Perhaps someone in the community? +Johnny: I can create mailing lists and stand up forums pretty easily +Fabian: phpbb might not be that trivial +Fabian: no centralized auth +Fabian: we’ll have to retool heavily in the future +Carl: should we have a vote? +Statement : The board will allow the development of forums, lists, and content in other languages managed on CentOS infra and by the CentOS project open to contribution by all. The project will not delegate the running of CentOS branding infra, forums and such to 3rd parties. +### Vote: +* yes: KB, Jim, Karsten,Carl, Fabian, Mike, Johnny +Carl review the versioning proposal +[see slide deck] -> where ? in google drive ? +(attached to “Numbering” thread on board mailing list) +(lots of discussion) +Johnny/Fabian are concerned that if we find it confusing, then the community will find it even more so and react negatively +Carl expresses willingness to spend more time to get it right +### Dojos +KB: Lyon is sold out +Karsten: what is happening with Denver? + diff --git a/meetings/2014/2014-05-21.md b/meetings/2014/2014-05-21.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..1332e69 --- /dev/null +++ b/meetings/2014/2014-05-21.md @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +# Board minutes: 2014-05-21 + +## Agenda: + +c7 : Whats needed +numbering +problem statement ( Mike .. ) +potential solution might be to use date stamp +7.XXYY- +xx ⇒ year 2 bits +yy => month ( to match RHEL dates ) + => potentially something that other variants can use +but we might need a default TAG ( Final ? ) +Would help if it the default started with an “A” so that it could be iterated after that easily +have a rough draft via Jason Brooks ( RH OSAS Comms person ) by 23rd / 27th +altsrc +expectations internal to RH already point to people expecting git.centos.org being source upstream +feedback from HiPEx Spring was that people who care / are tracking conversations, already also expect git.c.o +Can we can push git as primary without breaking FTP per-se? +secureboot +Clarify the position on access for Red Hat owners / hosted +there might be exceptions in the future ( but those would be well defined ) +default policy would be to allow community access as needed +Call for a mailing list vote on CERN people position ( if we want them in, and if we want them to run the koji ) +we might need more board meetings in the coming weeks, make sure that we set expectations with everyone. + + diff --git a/meetings/2014/2014-06-04.md b/meetings/2014/2014-06-04.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..d7f28ae --- /dev/null +++ b/meetings/2014/2014-06-04.md @@ -0,0 +1,30 @@ +# Board minutes 2014-06-04 + +## Agenda + +* need to close to get versioning email out from board, assist from Jason +* invite for Jason to talk about ftp messaging coming from Red Hat +* basic update on where things stand, readiness. + +## Actions +mikem needs access to git.centos.org for pushing altsrc content +team needs one-time-for-first-time access to source of 24 to 36 hours in advance of release for internal-only pre-staging. +mikem will bring this up in thu internal altsrc meeting +Setting up internal host on possibly OSAS lab machines as pre-staging git devel server in 10.x VPN space. +Can do a daily sync on #centos-devel when doing public prebuild dress rehearsal. + + + + + +## Notes + +Packages that are from EL7 that need to go into EL6. (right?) +MikeM has list +prepupgrade-assistance, redhat-preupgrade-tool, preupgrade-* +These are going to be EL6 packages that only have source in git.centos.org and not in FTP - this means at least some EL6 source is moving to git from FTP. +When do we sync to RHN? + + + + diff --git a/meetings/2014/2014-08-13.md b/meetings/2014/2014-08-13.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..d4bd28f --- /dev/null +++ b/meetings/2014/2014-08-13.md @@ -0,0 +1,52 @@ +# Board minutes 2014-08-14 +## Attending: +* Ralph +* Carl +* Mike +* Johnny +* Jim +* KB + + +# Agenda: +## SIG Overview and recap +### Virt SIG +* cbs access is now available to them +* qemu version convo +* libivrt stable version +### Cloud Instance SIG +* AMI’s are with AWS, waiting QA signoff +* vagrant cloud setup +* GCE images ETA 10 - 12 days +* docker images in prod +* consolidated builders in RDU +* Dir structure + * workout with tigert + * signed json api (?) +* ###Storage SIG +* glusterfs - test builds done +* working on docs +* ceph: might offload to gluster guy +###Atomic SIG +* builds automation +* getting ready to release in a week or so +* handover to atomic sig folks longer term +* SME Server +* deadending, needs action +* Voip +* patrick working behind the scenes, will get proposal in - already has packages to go for asterisk +### Cloud Infra +* kushan das, from EUCA came up today, unsure what he is able to do + +## CI SIG Conversation +naming QA SIg or CI SIG +jim / ralph /carl / kb / johnny are ok with CI sIG +could it mean CI for the C project or CI oriented spin +SIG onboarding process +Board has decided that CI is an area of attention and focus, where we can build value for upstreams and users, and we should investigate options around that area for now. +## dojo +write up what a process might be ( Karsten ) +workout how budgets work and how we might do allocations + +## face2face at Dojo Barcelona +